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Post by Adrian King on July 15th 2013, 4:01 pm

If I remember correctly Forumotion has the ability to use points allocated in a Admin-specified amount in Admin-specified areas. So technically, we could treat points as our RP Posts, and if this were to be put in place then we could estimate and have the admins add in our estimated points if agreed upon. This would be fairly simple because the points could be only obtained in RP sections. If I remember correctly instead of having to manually add them all the time they can be added automatically and the value per post can be 1. Also, I've seen size of post matter so if one-liners become a problem then you might be able to make it so that we don't get a point when it comes to one-liners and anything beyond one line could hook us our point. This is not meant as a numerical experience system, it just helps us better separate posts outside of RP from RP posts.

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Post by Hikari on July 15th 2013, 4:06 pm

I support this. It'd be more accurate than estimating and though it is true we can still count out the exact number that'd just end up being tedious and time consuming.

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Post by Adrian King on July 15th 2013, 4:14 pm

Yes. So we could make estimates of where we are at and add that. Or

Like experience another option could be obtaining points from 1-3 depending on our posts details.

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Post by Azmot on July 15th 2013, 4:36 pm

We've thought about this, but there are a few problems. First off, the points don't grandfather in old posts. Two, we don't want a specific number that says "I'm better than you".
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Post by Adrian King on July 15th 2013, 4:39 pm

Well, technically that already happens.

Also, the true purpose of this is just separating RP posts and Non-Rp posts.

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Post by Adrian King on July 15th 2013, 5:23 pm

No, that was a different system.

I said RP posts, not Battle posts.

And I have seen it done before. If they don't know how to do it, that's on their end. Not saying they don't because I don't know if they do know how to do it or not.

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Post by Adrian King on July 15th 2013, 5:38 pm

Well, like when the site transition occurred, points can be added manually and we wouldn't lose our status. So in a way, this wouldn't affect what we had already accomplished before implementing it.


Of course if it is too complicated, this could be trashed >.>.

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Post by Shirou on July 15th 2013, 9:15 pm

Basically, refer to what Azmot said.

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Post by Adrian King on July 15th 2013, 10:32 pm

I see this is the "Sounds good on paper" kind of ideas.

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Post by Etzolix on July 15th 2013, 10:54 pm

Drakar, it works fine in practice too as long as it is established before there are any RP posts. Essentially, we're too far gone.

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Post by Adrian King on July 15th 2013, 10:56 pm

Thought staff can manually add points. But I see what's wrong with this.

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Post by Jorehz on July 17th 2013, 5:09 am

One way to fix the retroactive issue is to simply go through and add users' post counts before the system was added to their point total. However, that's only PART of the issue.

One thing I know from experience is that points don't decrease when you delete posts. So essentially, if you go on while no one else is, you can make a thread, spam it with posts, then delete them again for a quick point top up and no one would be able to prove anything. There would be consequences for that kind of thing, I'm sure, but do you really want to add something that can be abused like that?

And of course there's other issues, but that's my main problem with the system.

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Post by Valerie Faye on July 17th 2013, 5:12 am

They could easily prove it by doing the math. If they don't have enough posts for the points they have than it's obvious they were just spamming everything.

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Post by Jorehz on July 17th 2013, 5:19 am

Valerie Faye wrote:They could easily prove it by doing the math. If they don't have enough posts for the points they have than it's obvious they were just spamming everything.

Yes, but you miss my point. It opens the possibility up, and that is the problem. Besides, if they're smart about it, then it can be done for a VERY long time before you eventually get caught, assuming you get caught at all. Example, 'back in the day', I was doing that on an acquaintance's RP forum for over a year and never got caught, and they were pretty sharp with the rules. (too bad that place got shut down)

So.... Yeah. Because it can be calculated to catch you out, it's still not hard to cheat the system, and that's the problem.

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Post by Valerie Faye on July 17th 2013, 6:00 am

Eh, the suggestion's not gonna be implemented anyways.

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Post by Jorehz on July 17th 2013, 6:05 am

I think anyone who has read the thread would know that, I was just throwing in my two cents xD

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Post by Etzolix on July 17th 2013, 11:01 am

I don't know when the last time you used the point system was but, from a site I just tried it on where it was implemented, when you deleted a post you lost the respective amount of points for that area.

Deleting forums, however, gets around that.

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Post by Jorehz on July 17th 2013, 9:35 pm

Really? Odd. Either way, that's how it worked where I used it, maybe it changed.

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