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Post by Adrian King on July 15th 2013, 1:33 am

First of all, I suggest ranks. I know the site has their own ranking system for Keybladers but for aesthetic reasons, I believe that since this is a public and accepting group for keybladers, we should have ranks.

My Structural Idea from highest to lowest OFFICIAL ranks:

-Leader
-Right and Left Arms
-Keyblade Master
-Keybladers
-Initiates.

Now, the right and left arms are subjective to the leader and are like the angel and devil on your shoulders. The keyblade masters are the Masters that join the Coalition and the keybladers are our seasoned fighters whom haven't become masters. Initiates would be newly-found keybladers, like those who aren't seasoned with a keyblade yet or are newcomers starting with one.

For Special Ranks:

-Dark Keyblade Master
-Light Keyblade Master
-Keyblade Master Initiate (those who are close)
-Seasoned Keybladers
-Keybladers
-Possible Keybladers? We could have a secret training process for possible keybladers. Have our masters train people to become keybladers so we can gain more militia.

Also, we could name one of our members or more as the head of recruiting for those requesting it to be IC.

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Post by Hikari on July 15th 2013, 1:46 am

I don't really see the need with this since the current structure seems fine though since there isn't anything really negative I can see about it I'll abstain.

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Post by Adrian King on July 15th 2013, 1:48 am

Well, it is more so for aesthetics.

A democratic response to this would be optimal.

EDIT:

Also, we should have a mass IC meeting after the war.

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Post by Hikari on July 15th 2013, 2:24 am

We're bringing tacos to the meeting.

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Post by Adrian King on July 15th 2013, 2:25 am

We need a serious meeting, Cool.

I suggest a Black List.

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Post by Jeremi on August 10th 2013, 12:38 am

I'm all for a more structured Coalition. I like the idea of us serving as a regulatory force, considering how powerful even Neophyte Keyblade Warriors are. (Or, how powerful they are in the Canon, anyway...)



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Post by Adrian King on August 10th 2013, 1:41 am

Yeah.


So, that's one person who agrees with this.

So once we get more members, we could have them vote before implementing this if favored.

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Post by Kenos on August 10th 2013, 10:10 am

Yes to structure. We'll fall apart without organization...like in the War topic, in the beginning. Although I think this would be limited to three tiers for now, at least until we have a large amount of members.

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Post by Hikari on August 10th 2013, 1:55 pm

Kenos wrote:Yes to structure. We'll fall apart without organization...like in the War topic, in the beginning. Although I think this would be limited to three tiers for now, at least until we have a large amount of members.
To be fair it's not really needed Kenos. It's for aesthetics according to Drakar so really, it'll do nothing at all other than serve to make the alliance page prettier. If a structure was implemented I'd likely end up suggesting we add various different things that give the ranks actual importance. So the left and right shoulders could be the advisors of the leader, the keyblade masters would of course train the initiates, etc. Of course these would be additional responsibilities so members of the Coalition would still be able to report on the battlefield.

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Post by Adrian King on August 10th 2013, 2:24 pm

But there is also the obvious structure to it.

The names are aesthetic.

And what Kenos said.

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Post by Hikari on August 10th 2013, 2:58 pm

Then my mistake.

Also I will note that this would likely not have any effect on bringing the Coalition together if this was just a system. If it did have an effect on bringing the Coalition together it'd likely be negative.


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Post by Adrian King on August 10th 2013, 3:02 pm

Erm...What? That was a confusing statement. Also, while there would be ranks I believe members should still have a say, depending on how much base importance they have in the say in matters depends on rank but I believe that can expand through how valuable their ideas are like if one low-rank kept having good ideas.

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Post by Hikari on August 10th 2013, 3:05 pm

I meant negative at the end, my mistake. Also we should have equal say which brings up the next issue, it can break us a part. If people are not equal then they're not going to want to just sit around and take shit from people just because those people are ranks higher than them.

By the way there's already a structure, it's just not as complex and more welcoming.

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Post by Kenos on August 10th 2013, 4:09 pm

Well, I don't mean like subordinates and other such things. Of course no one wants to take orders. But sometimes it needs to be done so that no one is just doing whatever they want.

Also, could you please explain the current structure? I'm a bit confused by it.

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Post by Adrian King on August 10th 2013, 5:11 pm

The problem is there is no structure. We basically follow you around and listen to your orders. There is the owner and its members, that's it.

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Post by Hikari on August 12th 2013, 6:48 pm

Drakar that's pretty much the definition of a structure. A structure is how things work, it doesn't need to have multiple ranks and levels of authority to be considered one.

There's the founding members and the members themselves. I am currently the leader and one of the founding members. Next in line to take the Coalition is obviously Kenos so if I ever die or for some reason leave the Coalition Kenos takes lead. Why should we change that which has no flaw? I simply carried over Alex's system. He never felt the need for a more complex system so why should we implement one? I simply can't see how this would benefit the alliance.

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Post by Kenos on August 12th 2013, 6:52 pm

I don't think we should have a head >.> That everyone in the Coalition should be equal.

Democracy! Democracy!

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Post by Hikari on August 12th 2013, 6:57 pm

Democracy is enforced OOC wise as evidenced by this topic. Also an alliance without any leader is just anarchy. We're not a nation, we're a unity of keybladers across the world.

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Post by Kenos on August 12th 2013, 8:02 pm

I meant IC, we shouldn't have a leader. And I have to disagree, not having a single leader doesn't necessarily mean anarchy. We make every decision on a majority vote. Hell, we have a poll system, why not use it?

I also say we need some sort of "larger purpose" or creed explicitly stated. It could be our initiation vow or whatever.

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Post by Adrian King on August 12th 2013, 10:31 pm

Cool, it seems what I say doesn't matter. I am not the only one who doesn't consider this current system structure. I'll let those that agree with me speak for themselves. But this isn't THAT complex. Also, like Kenos, I agree we should be a democracy IC.

Basically you just had us fight in a war that had caused internal conflict right from the start. We need a say IC-wise. Also, my proposed creed is quote in Jeremi's siggy.

EDIT: Also, if this is a democracy, Kenos and Jeremi already agree with this over our current way of things. That's 3 out of 5 who agree. Smit just hasn't been clued in on this area or has ignored this entirely.

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Post by Jeremi on August 12th 2013, 10:36 pm

Personally, I have misgivings about how the group works, at the moment.

One? We're doing WAY too much planning and scheming OOC. When the only way any of that is legitimate is if we do it ICly.

Two?

...At present, the Coalition is little more than a branch of the Disney Town Military. Which I STRONGLY disagree with.

As far as a larger purpose or creed? I've already got one.



I always saw the Coalition, as a concept, as something like the Jedi Order.

We exist to perfect the use of the Keyblade, and seek out individuals who can be trained to wield it. Perfect and perpetuate our craft.

In terms of structure?

A small Council, say, five people, making the big decisions. Then, you have Warriors, who seek out potential Keybladers, and keep the peace at the behest of the Council. Masters serve to train Initiates, and as the final line of peacekeeping.

...That's it.

Initiates, Warriors, Masters, and five Councilmen.

Simplicity itself. And, it makes sure no one man has all the power.

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Post by Adrian King on August 12th 2013, 10:38 pm

So I'd like to say that due to past discussions and the recent posts, we should make it to where no one man has power.

I agree a lot is OOC but this topic is for the OOC part. We need more IC meetings. Not just "Hey. Hows it going. I totally read your mindmessage. Totes here for the big bash.".

But I also agree with the allusion to Star Wars.

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Post by Kenos on August 12th 2013, 11:16 pm

I concur with Drakar and Jeremi

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Post by Hikari on August 13th 2013, 3:52 pm

I changed my mind, I abstain.

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Post by Shirou on August 13th 2013, 11:21 pm

I'm going to have Shirou take over the Coalition, since he is the most experienced and the strongest (example: the incident in the war). Not forcibly. But, since Cool has died before any of this can be enacted, and Shirou is probably going to take control before it can be, it's going to stay pretty much the same.

After the war is finished, Shirou is leaving the Coalition, or becoming a reserve member and making Kenos the leader again, and then you can do whatever you want with it.


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