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Post by zdynasty on September 26th 2014, 7:12 pm

(ignore Azzinoth XD) well Etzolix You just did good at searching that's what I mean

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Post by Etzolix on September 26th 2014, 7:21 pm

Did good at searching what?
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Post by Oriel on September 26th 2014, 11:30 pm

everything

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Post by Lilac on September 26th 2014, 11:32 pm

nothing
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Post by Hikari on September 27th 2014, 12:08 am

Azzinoth wrote:#IgnoranceFTW

Ignorance is bliss but it is bliss in weakness; hence the importance of the truth. To shield yourself from the truth is to admit you are too weak to face up to the questions life has to ask of you. The willfully ignorant are, after all, naught but cowards whom hide from facts and live in a pathetic world of lies and insecurity; and to live in that world means they lose the chance to grow as individuals.

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Post by Etzolix on September 27th 2014, 7:02 am

Who cares about growth when you can die happy?
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Post by zdynasty on September 27th 2014, 8:17 am

you are all breaking my mind =,(

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Post by Etzolix on September 27th 2014, 9:39 am

You still need to answer my question. What were saying I Google searched?
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Post by zdynasty on September 27th 2014, 11:01 am

Etzolix wrote:Yeah, being lazy. Being IC has nothing to do with it. Because people IRL don't curse. Because it hasn't been proven that cursing is linked to an emotional part of the brain, opposed to a logical one. Because people can only be one thing when they do something. Because everyone falls under one category.

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this this is what you Googled I think

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Post by Etzolix on September 27th 2014, 11:13 am

Oh, nah. That's just knowledge I had from prior experiences sprinkled in with sarcastic opinions in order to make a point.
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Post by zdynasty on September 27th 2014, 1:41 pm

ah smart

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Post by Etzolix on September 27th 2014, 1:58 pm

We all have our intellectual strengths and weaknesses.
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Post by zdynasty on September 27th 2014, 2:18 pm

your going to break my mind....

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Post by Hikari on September 27th 2014, 4:34 pm

Etzolix wrote:Who cares about growth when you can die happy?

The happiness ignorance gives way to is ultimately false happiness -- and just like all cheap knock-offs it'll crumble and fall apart. You can never escape conflict because reality will always come to drag you away from your sphere of false truths; inevitably resulting in the ignorant deluding themselves into thinking they're happy until the day they die. No one will remember their name since they never stood up to face any of the challenges presented to them and no true happiness will be gained so long as the weak of resolve continue to delude themselves.

However, that's not to say that there isn't knowledge out there that is best left untouched by humanity.

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Post by Etzolix on September 27th 2014, 6:31 pm

Not everyone seeks importance. If I could find happiness leaving less of a footprint than others, I would do so in a heartbeat. I'd rather be forgotten than remembered. It makes no difference to me; I'm dead.

Accomplishment for glory is meaningless. Everything is temporary. We will all die. And there will eventually be no one to remember anything anyone has ever done. And just like those who find comfort in an afterlife, I've found comfort in the lack thereof.

Ignorance is bliss, because awareness is suffering. The void is an unflinching absolute, with everything a subjective experience. Some find fulfillment in reaching an equilibrium with society. It is wrong to dismiss someone else's happiness because it doesn't meet your standard.
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Post by Hikari on September 27th 2014, 7:13 pm

I'd agree with you about having alternate opinions and not dismissing them normally but ignorance is ultimately toxic. If humanity were to isolate oneself from knowledge that could bring them stress, discomfort, sorrow, and/or etcetera it'd be at the expense of others (and sometimes the individual themselves) in many other scenarios.

If all humans simply preferred to play pretend and act as though no problems existed in the world we'd have a hellhole just so some people could gain momentary happiness. Corporations could destroy the environment and no one would raise a word about it because it brings up conflict and makes them realize that something bad is happening. Refugees could starve because nobody was willing to donate to a charity since you'd have to acknowledge that there were people suffering whom needed that money -- penetrating the view of a perfect world.  

Refusing to acknowledge a problem's existence doesn't make the problem go away and therein lies the problem with ignorance. For all that happiness you gain via isolating and deluding yourself others lose because of it. And I know what people are going to think, "That doesn't make sense! Nobody's saying humanity as a whole should be ignorant"!

But humanity as a species has to work together in order to survive and thrive. One person's stand against an immoral practice can rally others together and unite their voices as one. One person's donation to a charity can ensure a starving orphan eats another day. By isolating ourselves, as either individuals or a species, from problems we just add to the problem or subtract away from the solution. Hence why ignorance is so toxic. By ignoring the question of how to propose a solution we guarantee that there can't be a solution.

I suppose I worded my original statement wrong. I meant to oppose extreme ignorance; not simply avoiding asking certain questions so you can be happy. I'd argue that anything, when taken to an extreme, is nearly always going to be harmful. Though that's a discussion for another day.

Besides; accomplishment in itself brings happiness. It's all about the dopamine pathway and the results we achieve as a whole by pursuing said accomplishments.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-neurochemical-self/201105/the-brain-needs-downs-have-ups

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Post by Etzolix on September 27th 2014, 7:20 pm

All of humanity's problems will end with humanity. Perhaps ultimate ignorance is the quickest way to end humanity's problems; by ending humanity.

But, that's true Nihilism, so. Not many people will enjoy that mindset, nor want to negotiate their happiness. So, generally, people will do the bare minimum to ensure they stay content.

Luckily, in the age of the internet and mass information, the gung-ho youth can work on saving the world, before the system strips them of all resolve. We're more likely to change the world from the better at this point, because awareness is suffering.

But by treating the underlying cause instead of symptom, we can ideally change that.
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Post by Hikari on September 27th 2014, 7:58 pm

If awareness is suffering then color me a masochistic.

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Post by Etzolix on September 27th 2014, 8:01 pm

*colors*
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Post by Hikari on September 27th 2014, 8:03 pm

Etzolix you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to use purple.

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Post by Etzolix on September 27th 2014, 8:05 pm

purple is a gateway color
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Post by Hikari on September 27th 2014, 8:08 pm

C'mon kiddie. Everybody's doing purple nowadays. What? Ya doing some red instead, ya lightweight? Bet you don't even color outside the lines.

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Post by Etzolix on September 27th 2014, 8:14 pm

Like the mantis shrimp, I've done colors you can't comprehend.
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Post by zdynasty on September 28th 2014, 7:34 am

I'm just going to walk away now




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